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Betreff: The Turning Point
Von: vinancio.cano
Datum: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:28:15 -0500


 
 
 

 

 

Volume 2                                     

May 2007

 

 The Turning Point   

 


  Introduction to Interview

Eleanor White is a retired engineer and ham
radio operator who lives in Canada.  She
became a target of organized stalking and
electronic harassment in 1980.  After 16 years
of thinking she was the world's unluckiest
person, she subscribed to the Internet and
discovered that there were many other people
experiencing the same crime.
 
Eleanor has done such activism as resources
have allowed.  She tries to assist targets with
technology concepts, and clarifying the
differences between unsupported articles,
opinions and theories, and what has been
demonstrated to the extent that public officials
can't deny the reality.  A "credibility coach."

 

Sueann Campbell 


 


Eleanor White

1. Would you relate to us when you first noticed the
  signs of your targeting?


  * Sudden hostility by neighbours and strangers
    on the street, difficulty sleeping, sabotage of
    clothing and belongings too small to get police
    attention.  Intense itching especially when I
    tried to sleep, especially where my body would
    contact the mattress.

    Very heavy fatigue on the job.

2. What emotions did you experience?

  * I just figured I was unlucky for 16 years, until
    I read Julianne McKinney's article "Microwave
    Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation."
    Once Julianne's article showed me what was
    really going on, I just got plain 'ticked off', the
    feeling which persists to the present.

3. What steps did you take to find out what was
  happening to you?


  * Basically I went on line, and it didn't take long
    to find the Mind Control Forum, then hosted
    by Ed Light, and Cheryl Welsh, the leading
    contact person I knew about at that time (1996.)
    And Julianne's article, of course.

4. Did you have ideas on getting it to stop?

   * I thought that human nature had just degraded
     to the point where organized stalking and
     later electronic harassment had become an
     accepted activity.  I experimented with
     shielding, from simple to a huge, 4-layer, total
     enclosure around my bed in 1997.  It did
     nothing to stop the harassment, and by that
     time, the many remote physical manipulation
     attacks made it plain that the perpetrators use
     technologies beyond those taught in school.

     Consequently, the few resources I had left
     go to looking for ways to expose and stop
     the crimes, rather than exposing and stopping
     the attacks.

     My favourite idea, if someone has substantial
     money to spend, would be to purchase an
     already licensed billboard and advertise our
     cause and web sites near a large city.  I think
     the return on investment would be higher for
     that than other ideas I've heard.

     Simply renting the space would probably not
     work, as the billboard owner would be coerced
     to stop doing business with us.  We would need
     two own the billboard.

5. Did you try to take steps to protect yourself?

   * Yes - several thousand dollars' worth of
     shielding and detection experiments.  Those
     experiments made it clear that I was not under
     attack by conventional electromagnetic or
     acoustic signals.

     Shielding is a low cost way to exclude EM
     signals from around 20 Hz up to X-rays.  If
     the effects continue, it's not an EM signal in
     that range.

     An oscilloscope connected to a large pickup
     coil will show if you have EM frequencies too
     low to be stopped by EM shielding, and I did
     that and found none during heavy attacks of
     various sorts.

     An ionizing radiation detector will show if one
     is being bombarded by X-rays or other ionizing
     signals, and mine showed no ionizing radiation
     except a very small amount of normal background
     radiation from cosmic rays.

6. Did they work?

   * No.  There were some apparent "successes"
     which lasted from days down to hours, but it's
     now clear they were decoy successes.

     But my experiments did show I wasn't under
     attack by conventional EM signals.  The types
     of attacks would not be doable using sound,
     and furthermore, the heavy concrete walls, floor,
     and ceiling also showed I wasn't being attacked
     using acoustic signals.

7. What is the achievement you are most proud of?

   * Can't think of one.  If something I've done
     should contribute to the eventual exposing
     and stopping of organized stalking and
     electronic harassment, that would be the
     the item, but that hasn't happened yet.

8. What made you want to begin your work on the
  web (educating the public)?


  * I could see that the only entity large enough to
    eventually defeat the perpetrators would be to
    get the public educated.  Personally, I believe
    that if a large percentage of the general public
    knew about these crimes, large enough so
    they could talk freely, these crimes would
    probably not be able to continue.

    An informed public could and would exert a
    huge amount of pressure on the corrupt
    governments and justice systems.

9. Did you find suitable companions for a support
  group? If so, how ?
 

* I didn't really try.  The e-mail forums have
    served me well enough. My first support group was the Mind
      Control Forum e-mail forum, which is still
      in operation, and though there are some
      rough spots, I think it's still the best place
      to keep up with what's happening.

    
    I found CATCH when Norma Lawrence
      asked if I was interested in being a
      member in 2004.
    
    The experience of the CATCH group in
    Toronto, headed by Norma Lawrence for
    approximately 2004-2006, was positive.
    However, Norma's work responsibilities
    increased, and she bore the screening
    responsibility for invitations to the meetings.

    She found she spent a lot of time dealing
    with callers who were not targets, and took
    up lots of her time for whatever reasons.
    They may have been perpetrators.  Now
    CATCH is dormant except for the sites.

    I think group activity is going to be necessary
    to make real progress.  I hope that an idea
    floated by Derrick Robinson, and that is to
    make carefully planned, (and supported by
    non-targets,) approaches to public officials
    will eventually become reality.  CATCH
    didn't quite get that far.

    Group activity in which members actually
    say or write things to the public, public
    officials, or the media, is best done by group
    members who have developed the self
    discipline to lead with facts, and label opinions,
    guesses, theories, or analogies as such.

    Group activists also need to be careful to
    avoid naming specific agencies as guilty of
    carrying out the harassment without proof
    at a courtroom level.
      
      Nowadays, perhaps the best place to
      become aware of support groups are the
      postings by Derrick Robinson and others
      on the organized stalking/electronic
      harassment/mind control e-mail forums.

      There are web sites which have postings
      from people looking to network as well:

      http://www.mindcontrolforums.com
      http://www.stopcovertwar.com
      http://www.eharassment.ca

      The several once a week telephone
      conference calls are another way to
      network, and Derrick announces them
      in his weekly bulletins on the [mcforums]
      e-mail forum.

11. Do they make life easier for you?

    * Definitely.  Knowing one is not the only
      one going through this real-life nightmare
      is the most effective support available.

12. How would you suggest to build a criteria to
   determine perps that make actual physical
   contact with you, in reference to gang stalking.
 

   * I don't quite understand that question.  My
     perpetrators don't make physical contact
     with me.  They do organized stalking, which
     is a series of harassment skits, carefully
     designed to appear to a casual observer like
     "life's normal breaks."  But I don't recall any
     physical contact by these harassers.

     I've had a couple of clearly faked car
     accidents, but that was physical contact with
     the car, not me.

     If you mean instead, identify my perpetrators,
     I can identify a very small number whom I
     see repeatedly.  But until the public and justice
     system become aware (for those who simply
     don't know) or admit (for those corrupt or
     compromised who pretend not to know) I don't
     see any way my identifying my perpetrators
     can get positive action.  So that's not something
     I concern myself with at the moment.

     A couple of very capable targets are indeed
     trying very hard to build up an identity list and
     they may succeed in making a breakthrough
     with their local justice systems.  More power
     to them!

     But I feel more inclined to work on finding ways
     to take our best material and figure out how to
     present it.  I've posted my best ideas, and the
     best ideas of others on presentation, on this
     web site about "verbal tactics":

     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vertacs

13. From your web site, www.raven1.net, it is
   clear that you have dedicated time and
   resources to educate yourself and others.
   Could you paraphrase the most important
   aspects of the weapons research you have
   found for our readers, especially the new
   ones to our community?


     * The most important aspect of weapons
     research is the discovery, by a number of
     targets, not just me, of five weapons which
     (a) can do exactly what happens to us and
     (b) do so through walls, and silently i.e.
     others in the area can't hear anything, and
     without burning through anything.  Those 5
     technologies can't do everything that
     happens, but they can do enough of what
     happens to force even the most reluctant
     public official to acknowledge there are
     e-harassment weapons in existence.

     Those five weapons are summarized here:

     http://www.raven1.net/5techs.htm

     Another important aspect are the 30-40
     reports from targets, myself included, who get
     repeated harassment effects which are too
     advanced to result from any signal type as
     taught in school today.  The main such effect
     is the surgically precise remote manipulation
     of body parts and objects, even through
     shielding which would stop conventional
     signals.  That aspect has great importance
     for targets who have enough resources to
     experiment, so their resources aren't "blown"
     on cures for purely conventional signals.

     And new targets tend to be the ones with
     remaining resources.  It is just as important
     to know what does NOT work as it is to know
     what does.  (And so far, no countermeasure
     that I'm aware of has worked fully and
     permanently.)

     The realization that signals advanced beyond
     signal types taught in school means that the
     field of countermeasure experiments is wide
     open, because we don't know what may be
     effective against the advanced signals.  The
     main caveat is targets should not spend money
     or other resources which they can't afford to
     lose.

     A second caveat is to avoid non-targets
     seeing strange countermeasure experiments,
     as allegations of mental illness are the main
     weapon public officials use against us.  If
     the public, or, say, your apartment super,
     sees strange countermeasure experiments,
     that doesn't help with your reputation.

14. Have you come across any information on
    the HAARP system, as it relates to T.I.'s, in
    your research?


    * The HAARP system is a powerful, aimable
      short-wave transmitter (not microwave) which
      is aimed at the ionosphere and can heat it,
      and cause the ionosphere to radiate ELF
      signals to submarines, and other possible
      effects such as weather control.

      Any powerful pulsed transmitter can act as
      a big Lida machine.  A Lida machine is an
      old medical device which transmits a pulsed
      radio signal at a subject.  If the pulse rate is
      in the range of brain activity during sleep, it
      can cause sleep in the subject.  It can also,
      with a pulse rate increase, cause wakefulness.

      More complex pulsing radio signal transmitters
      can cause nausea and other disruptive effects
      on people in the signal path.

      However, HAARP can't be focused as
      microwave can, so I don't see how HAARP can
      account for the surgically precise attack effects
      we experience.  Only if the general public
      started reporting our effects would I think in
      terms of HAARP.

Eleanor White



 

 


  Accepting The Helping Hand


To all the people that contacted me about the news letter on the website and gave me positive encouragement, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you. There were some people that gave some constructive criticism, and for that as well, I thank you. Some of the criticisms were well founded and it is a comfort to know that there are people out there that are willing to watch your back and help where they can.

There were a couple of contacts though, that were steeped in paranoia and suspicion. In the last newsletter, I mentioned some of the symptoms of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder); paranoia being one of those symptoms. It is perfectly natural to become shell shocked with the symptoms of PTSD after years of abuse. Anyone, no matter how strong the person is, can reach a point where it only takes a nudge every now and then to keep that person thinking that the Perps are everywhere and everyone.

I personally have met with and talked to people on the phone that, through their own suspicions, have refused help because they suspect everyone and everything. It is unfortunate that these people have reached this point. It may not be their fault but they are still casualties of this situation. If at every turn a person refuses help then ultimately, there is none.

There are many good hearted people out there that have the money and the inclination to help other people. In discussions with them, they say, they would like to get involved but every time they have tried to help TIs they wind up being called Perps or burned in one fashion or another.

I would like to remind everyone that we are all in the same boat. If everyone does not pick up an oar and start rowing in the same direction, we’ll just be going around in a big circle, getting nowhere. Yes, you have been burned by those you trusted. Yes, you are trying to make a difference with little success, if any. And yes, sometime it’s more than you can bear. Again, we’re all in the same boat. If you can help someone even if you have been burned, do so. If you need help, even if you’ve been burned, reach out. The only time there is no hope is when you stop trying.


Thank you

Ben

 


   

Damage Control


    Commonalities of a targeted individual, includes being ostracized from social, business, and often personal communities. From being harassed to the point of self implosion, we as T.I.’s, have gone to drastic actions of seeking help, and understanding. We often seek, sometimes demand, the help of professional authorities, only to be laughed at and driven away. This is only after we have sought understanding from our families, and friends. Whom most likely, have no idea what we are speaking of, and if they do, let on in no way, and begin to look at us suspiciously. This does little to ease our fears. Reactions may become more desperate, less responsive. So much so, that what needs to be done next is no less than, damage control. Stop trying to convince others, and begin fighting the social curse that has been forced upon us. Speak to those that you positively know are affected by the same “maladies” , as in the conference calls and group forums that are at our disposal. Alienation does not have to continue, and if you can deal with the connection of telephone and internet to commune with others, you are on your way.
    Questions abound in our minds, who do we trust? How do we learn more about this situation, if no one is willing to acknowledge the situation even exists? Also, how do we gather information without also receiving a one way ticket to the nearest Mental Health Facility? What should be first and foremost in our minds, is not only protecting ourselves, but our friends and family. Most often, we believe that is done by educating them on what is happening. As I have experienced, this is not always the best route.  The more one knows, the more possibility of targeting is introduced. Why would we want our children and spouses to experience that which we do? Oftentimes we harbor the wish that perhaps our family would join the brigade of informing the public. This is not always a reasonable request. Instead, seek a community which has already been introduced to these atrocious happenings. The need for a community which also understands, is a priority for progress. Join the conference calls, or group forums which you feel comfortable with. Lashing out at family, the people we are trying to protect, is in no way a progressive statement.  This also undermines our efforts to protect them further.
    T.I.’s often find themselves the targets in their own community as well. Through the forums which are attempting to educate and bring together individuals, either very negative T.I.’s or perps have infiltrated and wreak havoc. Effectively distracting us from what is most important, survival, and education. How are we supposed to go anywhere in this world, if we attack one another? Band together! Negativity is everywhere, hope for a solution, and we run around in circles because no one can come to agreement for all their worries about what’s happening to them. What about everyone else? Do our perpetrators hope for this, indeed, count on it? That our selfish needs and our paranoid “dreams” distract us from any hope of a constructive conclusion, reached through each other, and by each other? Could this be something to meditate on? Getting rid of these negative members, that are perhaps perps themselves seems like the solution.  So we block them, to only have two more pop up, with different names, fueling the fires of distraction. Knowing what they are doing is somehow, not enough for us. We must call them out, giving them exactly what they want, a finger pointed at them in animosity and negativity. Forgetting that through focus and determination to positively educate and support those that truly require it, is our purpose in these forums.
    I dare not suggest that our advancements or set backs are strictly our own responsibility. As a community, we cannot go anywhere without each other, and conversely, we cannot fail without each other. In an effort to protect our endeavors, selves, family and friends, the way we interact with the public in general is, in effect, damage control. A number one priority for anyone living with being a targeted individual.

 


Paradoxes in Victimization


For domestic violence victims, abuse can be confusing. Often women who are physically abused are told by their abuser that it is their fault. They may be told repeatedly that it will never happen again. The abuse may change over a long period of time and many types of dependencies cause further involvement in the relationship, such as financial and emotional. There may be children to take care of and they may not be willing to leave. There could be threats of more violence contingent upon leaving the relationship. The victim may feel like her love is insufficient if she leaves the relationship. Sometimes hope of the relationship changing makes more sense to the victim than the necessary changes of creating a new life, which may also be dangerous without help.

Abusive situations are very complex in the hearts and minds of victims. Some of these complexities form into a paradox about being a victim. The first step in treatment is identification of the problem. Signs of abuse can be threats and actions of harm or injury, sexual abuse, and emotional abuses, such as financial control, embarrassment and social isolation, are common in domestic abuse (ACOG Website). On the one hand, victims are encouraged to recognize the abuse in such a way that their victimization is established. And yet, simultaneously, the victim should be proactive in order to step out of the victimized mentality. Are there contradictions within the psychological treatment of abuse? The result is a complicated relationship to have with oneself. The way out of victimization in cases of domestic abuse requires great leaps of pro-activity and seems self-contradictory. Is there a more effective model for understanding these relationships?

For those in the AA program, this paradox may be more important than confusing. By identifying alcoholism as a disease, the person is separated from the substance in a victimized role to the alcoholism and alcohol, which is not a derogatory stance, but one that provides hope and empowerment. This, in turn, requires surrendering to the idea of being an alcoholic, which is part of the first step of the program. The alcoholic may choose not to drink, but will never lose their alcoholism.

The paradox, in the case of domestic abuse, is furthered within the plethora of psychological books that help victims identify the patterns that lead to repetitively choosing abusive relationships. Pia Melody in Facing Codependence identifies, “facing the fact that the disease exists in your life” as “the first major step in changing…” (page 3). The victim of abuse is also an abuser of themselves, in a sense, by permitting and developing these types of relationships. They are described as dependent and addictive with love, and there are a number of 12-step programs that offer a wealth of education, resources and support, such as Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (SLAA) and Codependent Anonymous (CODA). In fact, they are in turn victims of their past: “because of these earlier experiences, codependent adults often lack the skills necessary to lead mature lives and have satisfying relationships,” (Facing Codependence, Pia Mellody, back cover). Many are caught in a cycle of rejecting change at an unconscious level, even though they want to find better companions.

For the T.I., the concept of victimization is complicated by the difficulty of understanding and identifying the abuser as well as the symptoms of abuse. Often, T.I.’s are confused about what is going on. Many stories begin with the T.I. feeling that they are simply unlucky. Their life keeps falling apart at the seams and they are unaware than anyone else experiences electronic harassment. Rarely do they know why they are being targeted, although a series of speculations may be presented. There is a progression in the harassment, an increase in the number of identified incidents and interferences in life.

When one is a victim of a harassing unknown force, the feeling of being insane makes sense! Trying to tell someone about it is frustrating because T.I.’s of the caliber who are aware of electronic harassment are rare to find. Although the general population may be able to see the potential for this kind of abuse, at this time, one must be made aware of it to know it its true existence. Even spouses and loved ones find it hard to believe when targeting is very specific to the individual in such ways that lack concrete evidence- it’s technologically based!

How does one go out to start a new life? Being stalked is not a relationship that can be walked away from at will. In the case of electronic harassment, the target cannot find the source in order to gain a restraining order. Similarly, at Oasis, we usually do not encourage moving to a new state or county as a solution to targeting because it rarely works. Being a T.I., like other types of abuse, has been called a terminal condition, sometimes actually with the intention of leading to death.

As targeting progresses, T.I.’s often begin to make different choices that display a confusion of priorities as a product of the harassment. For example, some T.I.’s are more likely to make dramatic efforts to have their story heard by an audience that is not able to understand or does not have the capability to help. The forums for T.I.’s rarely cultivate the necessary sense of community and compassion for one another. There are things that can be done in this life and we can live in love and hope! Be thoughtful in your decision-making by staying calm and as objective as possible for the betterment of a normalized life. That is a tall order that can bring you peace and requires an attitude of patience and respect despite feelings of anger, frustration, and injustice. Amidst the complexities regarding victimization, the bottom line is clear: no one deserves to be abused.


 

References:


The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists Website, page title “Are you being Abused?” 23 May 2007 http://www.acog.org/departments/dept_notice.cfm?recno=17&bulletin=198


Mellody, Pia. (1989) Facing Codependence. HarperSanFrancisco.


 

 


    Free Speech for TI's

Appeals to the first amendment are used in everyday situations, but rarely are these sound legal arguments. There is a very strong sense of nationalism attached to these freedoms as a founding principle, but what does the law actually say? The First Amendment right to free speech is about being protected from government regulations on most speech, such as speaking a dissenting political opinion or ideology. For instance, the law cannot prohibit speaking about law reforms, such as legalizing marijuana, but it can prohibit speech that is detrimental to national security, or certain threatening speech.

This legal difference between freedom of expression and “free speech” is more than an interpretation of the law, it is the way it was written. Freedom of expression is a concept Americans have extrapolated from an overly romanticized view of history; it is not the founding principle. Consider the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798, which made malicious speech against the government illegal until Jefferson repealed it, following heated debates during the election of 1800. The Supreme Court did not make a ruling at that time to set a precedent of freedom of expression by proclaiming the Alien and Sedition Act unconstitutional. We cannot even be sure that freedom of expression was the true intent of the framers.

The freedom of speech is only a protection against the government. It does not protect speech in the private sector. For example, you can be fired for bad mouthing a boss over the internet, even if you think what you were doing was having a private conversation over a blog. According to Lawrence Lessig in his book Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace, aside from legal barriers, there are restraints from the market, situational architecture, and social norms that serve to regulate free speech, which impose limitations differently for various contexts, such as the internet and radio broadcasts. Consider the recent cancellation of Don Imus’ radio show. Imus’ canceled simulcast on MSNBC occurred because there are markets and social norms that enforce regulations on his particular use of racist remarks. He absolutely does not have a legally fortified right to say whatever he wants on the radio; there are no laws that guarantee a forum for what you have to say.

Instead, there are many legal forms of censorship by the government. The Federal Communications Commission censors the air waves, and prevent such things as foul language. Other government agencies participate in regular surveillance of internet sites, including blogs. To explain some particulars of free speech, let us turn to the Supreme Court case of The New York Times v United States. In June of 1971, the New York Times began running a series with exerts from a top-secret Department of Defense report regarding the US involvement in the Vietnam War. The case that ensued was about prior restraint on the papers and there were many different opinions from the judges involved. The New York Times was supported by the Supreme court in continuing to publish the classified “Pentagon Papers” because, according to Lessig, they had already been leaked. This meant that the government’s case, which depended on “irreparable harm,” was undermined; the cat was already out of the bag with additional help from The Chicago Tribune.

This brings up modern issues about protections of speech that are based, in great part, upon publication. More specifically, let’s look at this issue in regards to the internet as a forum. What if the report was leaked to an internet source? Would Ellsburg have created his own website to distribute the report if it happened today? In our modern internet-using days, anyone can publish anything on the web if they have internet access. Likewise, the web is not an automatically credentialed source, especially at the level of the private individual website. What would have happened to the credibility of these papers if they went straight to a non-credentialed forum, or a more controversial conspiracy-based site or blog? Would it lose its impact as truth? Printed “news” sources have established credibility and trust, whereas the internet should always be questioned, according to Lessig. The level of protection required by the government may be directed toward modes of publishing, instead of strictly regarding the material. It is very debatable whether or not the internet can be regulated, especially when it is a global network and each country has different laws.

Many T.I.’s have found a place to speak their peace, or shall I say rage, on the internet. Perpetrators may or may not be threatened by this because they realize that the relatively uneducated “rational-thinking” majority has been more interested in ostracizing such experiences than believing them. Can people resolve their opinion of you if their opinion starts off being one of not trusting your sanity? If people think you are crazy and you try to explain that you are not, are you already in a lose-lose situation? How can truth be recognized within questionable or biased websites? Regardless, we know that there is a great deal of truth in many of these web pages, even if it is partially hidden amid emotional appeals and bias language.

The mere concept of a bias opinion is based in great part upon the social norms of what most people know, which is very little in this case! T.I.’s face this kind of conundrum everyday. Being a T.I. is a complex problem, and that’s aside from the trauma of the actual targeting. Oasis Turning Point encourages its members and the society as a whole to know your rights so that you can speak accordingly and assertively.


References:

"Freedom of speech in the United States." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 2 Apr 2007, 22:48 UTC. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 14 Apr 2007

<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cid=932&title=Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States&oldid=119832869>.

Lessig, Lawrence. 1999. “Chapter 12: Free Speech.” Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace. New York: Basic Books

"Pentagon Papers." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 9 Apr 2007, 06:03 UTC. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 13 Apr 2007

<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cid=932&title=Pentagon_Papers&oldid=121362876>.


   


"To restore the direction of individual lives" 

 

 

 Headlines

   Intro to Interview
     w/
    Eleanor White

   Accepting the Helping             Hand

   Damage Control
 


 National News

    Paradoxes in Victimization

    First Amendment-Free Speech for TI's

   


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