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Betreff: Mail team's work can you give more opinion

Von: Monika Stoces

Datum: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:31:55 +0200

 


I believe this worldwide movement SHOULD NOT BE ORGANIZED NOR FORCED INTO SOME ORGANISATION

(That is also why there is no reason for any secretariat, nor any obligatory organisation)

 

BUT THE VICTIMS WHO WANT TO NETWORK AND BE INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING SHOULD GET THE CHANCE TO GET IN TOUCH

 

ANY ORGANISATION OR GROUP OF WELL WILLING HELPERS SHOULD SHARE INFORMATION AND CREATE ON THAT WAY POSSIBILITIES TO START SOLVING THE PROBLEM TOGETHER

 

FINALLY WE DONT NEED ANY OFFICIAL STRUCTURE NOW TO BE A POWERFULL MOVEMENT GROWING BY SPONTANOUS SUPPORT OF THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF NEW VICTIMS WORLDWIDE AT THIS MOMENT

 

 

ALSO  FROM ITALY  just recieved  2007 

info@associazionevittimearmielettroniche-mentali.org

(Thanks Rodin)

 

ONLY CAREFULLY WORKING TOGETHER AND LOOKING AT EACHOTHERS GOOD RESULTS AND MISTAKES WILL HELP TO US ALL

 

MONIKA  STOCES  BELGIUM

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: associazione contro abusi

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: mail team's work can you give more opinion

 

We are in accord with you: we can consider useful and FEASIBLE a COALITION.

An ask to every organization and Petition sending: we can work at best only
as free GO-BETWEEN not as part of whichever grouping; as science - and
Politics - workers and TRUE HELP searchers not as activists "good-willing"
supporters.

If our Association and/or its site is named on a petition PLEASE ERASE IT.

Please don't hinder our - difficult - task.

Il 19-08-2007 17:28, "jean verstraeten" <
verstraeten.jean@belgacom.net> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> ORGANIZATION
>
> I refer to the email of Soleilmavis dated 16th of August.
>

>
> An organization, normally, should be based on articles of association accepted
> by a general assembly of members.
>
> In those articles the aims are explained, besides the structure : e.g. the way
> of working with a general assembly, an (international) council, an executive
> committee, a secretariat (an international secretariat), a
> secretary(-general), possible staff members, a chairwoman or a chairman.
>

>
> This is the way in which e.g. the War Resisters' International or the Registry
> of World Citizens, like so many other associations, are organized.
>

>
> In the case of the first, action groups in different countries form sections
> of the International.  As to the Registry, it used to work with national
> centres (now they work in a somewhat different way, but it would not make
> sense to explain that here.)
>

>
> In the movement of resisters to the remote targeting of persons, the problem
> looks somewhat different.  Associations already exist.  Some also are
> functioning on an international level or on a not necessarily national level.
> Hence, what they can form is rather a coalition of associations and persons in
> the different countries and continents.  These associations or persons would
> declare to adhere to the aims and the functioning of a Worldwide Campaign
> Against etc., which I would rather call (Worldwide) Coalition Against.(think
> e.g. on the Coalition of NGO's for the  International Criminal Court).
>

>
> Such a coalition, if well organized, would need an international secretariat
> (1), dispose of financial resources and normally also of staff members, as
> volunteers just cannot do all the work.
>

>
> I believe the moment has not yet come for that. (1) Trying to do it now would
> demand an impossible amount of time and work without helping the cause.
>

>
> Conclusion?  At the time being, it would be better that the so called
> Worldwide Campaign etc. created on internet continues without articles of
> association or without a fixed structure.  When time will have come for that,
> a better structured organization will, almost automatically, come into being,
> I believe.  Meanwhile, however, we should, according to our possibilities,
> continue reacting on a worldwide scale to sensible proposals.  Formulae to
> avoid the multiplication of entering emails would certainly be welcome.
> Furthermore, those able to earn some money should certainly be encouraged to
> do so! 
>

>
> I understand, however, that these are just a few ideas which don't help one
> single victim of crimes against humanity perpetrated on a distance.
>

>
> For justice, for humanity, for freedom,
>

>
> Jean Verstraeten
>

>
> (1) In countries like Belgium, Holland, France (after the disappearance of the
> CAPT) there is no team capable of running a real secretariat up till now.  We
> feel the deepest, the warmest sympathy for a desperate, utterly courageous
> struggle like Monika's.  We deplore that she has to face so many expenses
> herself.  Nevertheless, the situation must be seen as it is : we don't dispose
> of the persons yet to build a real organisation in one of (e.g.) the mentioned
> countries.  Hence, even in the most tragic, most harrowing situation, patience
> remains something like a capital virtue.
>

>
> P.S. I am sorry for the dubious English.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mavis mavis
>   To: Monika Stoces ; Danny Bonte ; John Allman ; wlotz

>  
>   Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:46 PM
>   Subject: mailteam's work,can you give more opinion
>
>
>   Hello everyone.
>
>   Here is my opinion, can you give your opinion?
>
>   Everyday, there are many victims all over the world are working hard to stop
> mind control and electromagnetic weapons torture and harassment. They write
> petition letters to government and press; They take law actions; They expose
> mind control and electromagnetic weapons through different channels; They try
> to talk to as many people as possible, through internet.
>   We must support all of them.
>   But we need well organize so that our complaint will at least not be ignored
> forever.
>
>   First of all, we need a longer plan, such as: august we can focus on Europe
> and Canada; September, we can focus on China, USA, Russia; October, we can
> focus on India, Japan and South Africa; November, we can focus on other
> countries.
>   Secondly, there must be at least one person in one country to in charge all
> the group worldwide movement.
>   (1) He/She needs to call other victims and let them know the worldwide
> movement. Encourage them to join our actions.
>   (2) He/She needs to talk to victims and know all victims actions and what
> support they want from the worldwide movement.
>   (3) When a victim needs worldwide support, He/She needs to discuss with our
> members of mailteam-actions group. and find a best solution to give help,
> when, how?
>   (4)He/She also needs to contact government and press, and find government
> and press address which can be used for worldwide movement. And answer
> questions from government and press, and also prepare documents which needed
> by government and press.
>   (5)He/She also need to encourage victims to take active action everyday.
> Victims can do a lot of works, such as: they can keep writing letters to all
> over the world, they also can take lawsuit. They can talk to as many people as
> they can through internet. (join different yahoo groups, google groups, and
> other groups, and try to talk as many people as they can about mind control
> weapons, leave comments to different news to teach people about mind control).
>   (6) He/she needs to speak at least english and local languages, so that
> he/she can talk to our all group memebers and all local victims.
>   (7) He/she need to write to other members of our worldwide movement. Please
> write subject: worldwide movement needed ( from France )  (Because everyday we
> receive too many emails, so if you write like this, we will know it is a
> require for join actions.)
>   (8) while taking the worldwide actions, we must know what a lot of victims
> are also suffering from no job, no money earned, they have to have income.
> some victims are supporting by family members only, how can let victims have
> some income, it is also important for them to be independent and do more work
> for worldwide movement.
>   I have a suggestion to open an online shop for free to sale what ever you
> have.and all victims also can set up online shop, and we can introduce their
> online shops to all victims, at least if in the future, victims want to buy
> something, they can special buy from victims online shop. Only victims right
> now can understand victims and can help them. Other people may not provide any
> help for this.
>   Here is my online shop, you also can set up your online shop.
>  
http://soleilmavis.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!9B6CD1D7F6F8F411!2225.entry
>   Right now, we can not donation money from public here, because government
> does not recognize us as mind control victims, it maybe regard us as cheater.
>
>
>
>   Thank you and Best Regards!
>   Soleilmavis
>  
http://soleilmavis.googlepages.com
>   http://soleilmavis.spaces.live.com/
>   A story of a fight for Freedom and Human Rights
>
>   Note: I have joined American Chronicle as a Writer. Please read my articles
>  
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewByAuthor.asp?authorID=1902
>
>   I would highly appreciate if you could correct any mistakes such as
> spelling, grammar, sentences or opinions in my above-mentioned website.
>


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